Monday, December 04, 2006

My Three Shrinks Podcast 1: Podcasting Makes You Potty

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So we finally did our first podcast after talking about it for a month. It's about 25 minutes long and can be found here [this link didn't work using Firefox...I'm working on it fixed]. We couldn't use Shrink Rap for the name, as DrDave is already using it for his psychology interview-type podcast, ShrinkRapRadio. So we came up with this title, My Three Shrinks, with surprisingly little discussion. (Wife prefers the name, Shrinky Dinks, but that makes me feel a bit emasculated. Don't go there.)
Yes, the theme is ripped from the 1960's TV sitcom, My Three Sons, even down to the re-done logo and theme song (Clink wanted us to do Put Down the Duckie, but it just didn't seem to fit in well... maybe in a later one.)

Can you figure out which shrink is which?

So, here are the show notes for the podcast:

December 3, 2006: Podcasting Makes You Potty

[click the .m4a file to download]
  • Tip of the hat to Leo Laporte's This Week in Tech (TWiT) podcast for inspiration
  • Also a nod goes to Dr Dave Van Nuys at, who kindly pointed out he was doing a Psychology podcast of the same name way before us. Check it out, it's very well done
  • Dr Anonymous is not mentioned even once in this podcast
  • 60 Minutes: Beta-blockers to prevent PTSD and reduce traumatic memories?
  • Cardiac risk after post-heart attack depression
  • Shrink Rap Post: Go Red for Women
  • NHSBlogDoc's John Crippen's post about England's idea of requiring psychiatric evaluations for hospice and "assisted dying" patients

[Update: You can now subscribe to My Three Shrinks on iTunes, or download the .mp3]
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Dr. A said...

Hey! I'm downloading it now and will try to check it out this morning. I'm not mentioned in the podcast? Yeesh!

I also like the name. (You probably threw out ideas like the shrinkcast and the rapcast.) I still think that "putting down the duckie" at the bottom of your logo would add that special touch to the project.

I'll be back later to comment further...

Dinah said...

I'm at Major Hospital Center (to cop a Fat Doctor sounding term) where surprisingly I can blog, but no audio. How do we sound? And why is our logo so BIG?????


Your podcast is rather disorganized, but very funny!

Midwife with a Knife said...

You guys sound great. Funny.

About the propranolol thing... you never really came to a conclusion.

What would y'all think, for example, about including propranolol in the post-sexual assault package of drugs (includes emergency contraception, treatment for gonorrhea/chlamydia, HIV, etc.)? I don't know what the percentage of people who develop PTSD after a sexual assault is, but even assuming it's 10%, that's probably higher than the risk of acquiring an STD (I don't remember what the risk is, sorry!) or pregnancy (each act of intercourse carries approximately an 8% risk of pregnancy if performed peri-ovulationally (ok, I made that word up) from a single act of non-consensual intercourse. I can't think of any harm that could come from it, really, aside from medication side effects.

NeoNurseChic said...


When I try to download it, it downloads a m4a.txt document which is a jumble of nonsense code chacacters. I've tried to click on it a few different ways to get it to download an actual file that I can hear, but it's not working. I'm using Safari. Any ideas?

Looking forward to hearing it! :)

Carrie :)

Steve & Barb said...

Dinah-I always forget that Blogger's "large" photo is, well, "Large".

Dr A-looking forward to comparing notes.

Seamonkey-thanks. We were going more for informative entertainment, with less emphasis on a rigid outline.

Midwife-I don't know... probably not enough results, yet. I might blog about this later.

Carrie-I have the same problem using Safari, but IE permits a download, which can be listened to. I think Firefox was problematic, also. I think I'll try converting from a .m4a to an .mp3, and making that available. Also, I've almost got the iTunes .xml RSS thing working (thanks, Clink), so maybe by tomorrow you might be able to subscribe to the podcast feed using iTunes on a Mac or Windows computer.

Anonymous said...

I'm scared to listen to it. Even I don't want to hear 25 minutes of me --dinah

Midwife with a Knife said...

For what it's worth, Roy sounded exactly what I imagined he'd sound like. Huh.

Dr. A said...

Here's my 2 cents, because, as you know, I have extensively more podcast experience that you (like two more episodes - HA!).

Production analysis: I used Firefox to download and did not have a problem. Great intro music! I also like the logo. It worked well in iTunes and the "chapters" (ie - 60 minutes, JACC, etc.) worked well in the artwork section of iTunes. You could tell Roy was sitting closest to the microphone. At times it was difficult to hear Dinah & Clink. Just a suggestion, but maybe in post-production, separating topics with "bumper" music would further assist with transition to the next topic.

Content analysis: You're definitely right, the podcast sounds just like the blog. I wouldn't change the format. For me, my ADD kicks in at about 15 minutes. So, 25 minutes is a little long for me. But, others may like a longer podcast.

Sorry if I sound like I'm nitpicking. Hopefully the feedback is helpful. Can't wait for podcast 2!

Sarebear said...

This was COOL!

I had it playing as I surfed the blogs in my bloglines.

Yeah, it was a bit hard to hear the ladies, sometimes, especially Clink.

It was fun to hear you guys interact, just like you do on the blog and in the comments and stuff.

It made shrinks seem more like regular people; I mean, you just bantered and discussed the topics and stuff just like anybody in any profession would do, or I would do about various subjects with somebody (if I had any friends, lol!).

Anyway, it was cool! Nice voices. Mine is dorky.

NeoNurseChic said...

Roy - let me know if you make any changes and I'll try again. I don't have IE, and my old laptop doesn't really work because I have no power cord for it. (Yes, power cord damage is a running theme for me!) I also only have Safari - no Firefox here. If you get it working through iTunes, let me know how to find it that way. Or maybe if you make it a .mp3 file - the only thing that was weird is that if it had just been .m4a, I don't think it would have been a problem, but it was .m4a.txt - that's what kept messing it up. .txt will always make it a text file - at least based on my knowledge! But it's working for some, so I wonder if that's just how Safari is reading it. Oh well!

I added some new tunes to my blog - some of my absolute favorite Christmas songs. The 2nd song, Mariah Carey's Miss You Most at Christmas Time, has always been a favorite - but I skated my very first solo program to it in December 2003. :) And I figured I'd put BoyzIIMen 1st since they're from Philly. ;)

Take care!
Carrie :)


I second what Midwife said about Roy sounding exactly as he writes. It's a voice that might abandon its host at any moment and start its own career as a stand-up comedian.

Steve & Barb said...

Carrie, try doing the following:
1) you must have iTunes for this particular method to work... but, of course, you do.
2) in iTunes, click on Advanced in the menu up top
3) choose Subscribe to Podcast...
4) in the box that appears, cut and paste this:
5) click OK or whatever it says, and you should soon see iTunes downloading the podcast... when it's done, play it.

Alternatively, try pasting this into your browser address window:

NeoNurseChic said...

Is that a .xml? I can't see the very edge of the html addresses. I will try that in a little bit. First I need to lie down - just got home from doing really badly on my pharm final, and my prof is going to have me take a makeup since we both know this is out of character for me. I don't feel well at all, so I'm going to just lie down first - then I'll try to download it again! Thanks!

Carrie :)

Dinah said...

I got on and listened to us. So why would anyone want to listen to us talk?? And what was wrong with my idea about a 6 minutes time limit?

Sarebare: I think I sound like a dork.

Anything to keep Roy happy.

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DrivingMissMolly said...

I'm totally bummed that I have been trying for the past two days to listen to the podcast, but have not had success. I refuse to use itunes. So sad...


ClinkShrink said...

Ah DMM, you don't have to use iTunes---let's hear it for freedom of choice! You can download the file from the link, then play it either in RealPlayer or QuickTime.

Steve & Barb said...

Also, I just converted the .m4a into a .mp3, so give this one a try.

ClinkShrink said...

Hey Roy, would you like a default home page to put up on the site? I'm wondering if some folks might find it a bit scarey to follow the link to a web site's root directory.

DrivingMissMolly said...


I just listened to the podcast (mp3) and thoroughly enjoyed it!

Roy, I think you could have a career on NPR with that voice!

I enjoyed the casual format yet with substantive content. In my opinion, the podcast was not too long.

It was very interesting to hear about the use of propranolol for prevention of PTSD. Does this prove a point I made to my psychiatrist that forgetting can be good? However, what about the physical aspects of memory such as muscle memory? Perhaps that sounds odd, but sometimes patients react in unexpected ways because their body remembers something but their mind doesn't necessarily at that moment know why they are reacting that way. For example, I once ran from a therapist and didn't realize until later that I felt like he was chasing me down like my father, in order to hit me.

I have read some opinions of borderline personality disorder being a kind of PTSD, a reaction to a traumatic childhood. Do any of you foresee any applications of the use of propranolol for BPD?

I have also heard of the blood thinning properties of SSRIs and think I noticed it during a cutting episode (50mg paroxetine qhs).

Anyway, Dinah and Clink I had difficulty hearing. I liked the lively debate between the three of you. The ringing phone, computer and dog added charm and realism.

The podcast experience was very rich for me. I realize, however, that I am sexist. Although I love Roy's voice, the ladies' didn't do anything for me. You all should have the same microphone for clarity's sake. It is too bad that there are so many male psychiatrists and not so many female ones. Out of 7, none of mine have been women. As a result, I respond better to male voices, I guess.

Anyway, carry on. I am looking forward to the next podcast and would listen if it was just a catalogue of the lint from each of your pockets'.

How fascinated we are by our shrinks and shrinks in general. Are you all as fascinated by us as we are by you?

DrivingMissMolly said...

I was just listening to a couple of audio books, one for the first time and the other for the third. It ocurred to be that both of them were writen in the crucible of pain and suffering. The titles are Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning and Rabbi Harold Kushner's When Bad Things Happen to Good People.

Frankl's logotherapy arose from the ashes of his interment in a concentration camp and Kushner's epiphany came through seeing his young son suffer from progeria and die at 14.

Painful experiences, agonizing events, cane be a catalyst for creativity. This is impossible to predict when one is suffering. I can see the possibility that administering propranolol indiscriminately, as I am afraid that would happen, could rob us and the very sufferers of works of genius and insight like the ones I've mentioned above.

Dinah said...

Oh, also a post-podcast note: As I turned onto Roy's street, my car radio started to play the old song from Carrie's blog: How To Save A Life. Does this have significance?

Steve & Barb said...

Clink, I did put up an index page, with links to the iTunes, .m4a, and .mp3 files, as well as an RSS feed.

Lily, I'm glad to hear you could finally listen. We used the built-in mic on the MacBook, and I was facing the screen so I was louder. Next time will be better (well, actually the one after next time, because we recorded two podcasts at once).

Are we as fascinated? That's why we do what we do.

Dinah said...

DMM: Last year when I returned from a 2 week stint in post-Katrina Louisianna, I read Of Human Bondage and then Frankl's Mand's Search for Meaning-- it felt like my season of suffering.

I don't think you have to worry that a post-trauma dose of a beta blocker will touch the distress offered by any sustained, character-altering event (such as surviving the holocaust). I think the effects might would be limited to decreasing the intensity of some anxiety symptoms and perhaps decreased startle, nightmares, and flashbacks-- suffering per se would still exist, and I believe, its creative offshoots as well. Plenty of people take these meds everyday for hypertension and cardiac disease-- they seem to suffer with the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand how a patient with THREE years of problems can drive two and a half hours for an appointment it took OVER A YEAR to get just to have a "doctor" say in six minutes you don't have PTSD.

Good thing I'm a strong woman and know how not to give up on my kids. But I find it disturbing that doctors who don't care can sleep at night.

And it's a good thing I have a legal research background and log and document all things involving the VA. My first suggestion is getting real doctors who care about people in those places.

Anonymous said...

I saw where the blog administrator deleted someone's comment. Since I have an opinion mine will disappear, too, right?